Who's Zoom'n Who, Now? Miss Jackson if you're Beastly.
You don't have to show nipples to be interesting or/and it doesn't necessarily mean you're cutting edge, if you do. Right? - Madonna on the Super Hole half-time.
MEOW! After all the shit Janet Jackson has said about Madonna over the years (out of sheer jealousy), Madonna responds in a witty and subtle way that Janet isn't capable of understanding.
Poor Janet is now relegated to doing Nutri-System commercials!
Awww don't hate on Janet. I feel bad her career went down the toilet after that. She was a great role model for young black women during her rhythm nation era. Just her fans piss me off, by calling her the queen of pop. But I do believe if her brother wasn't Micheal, she would have never had a career.
Seriously Madonna? A woman who felates water bottles? What about the sex book? and all the nude shots? simulated masturbation onstage? She’s 53, and STILL trying to sell sex. At least Janet learnt long ago the sex kitten act wasn’t working any longer.
Anyways...I don’t see the point in getting upset – they’ve been taking shots at each other since the mid-90s starting when Janet claimed she would not sing so obscenely about sex at Madonna’s age (Madonna at this time being in her mid-30s). Then all of Janets albums since then were all about sex...hummm.
Most pop stars ARE hypocrites...and life still goes on.
Oh yeah even at 53 M still has amazing tits campared to Janets. AND she never showed her nude body for interest, but for the sake of art at that time. Her SEX book was an erotic fictional novel. Her fashion cat-walk was a harness designed specially for her, and so on. She's never gotten naked on stage for the sake of just getting naked. She's not Courtney Love
You have to be a moron, a complete ignorant brainless motherfucker to ignore the different contexts (medium and time) where both (Madonna and Janet Jackson) have been “naughty:
When Madonna published her SEX book, you had to be an ADULT to buy it. When Madonna released the album “Erotica”, it came with a Parental Advisory sticker. "
When Janet showed her nipple on national TV during the Super Bowl halftime show in 2004, there were children watching it. It was not an X rated event, nor was it directed to an adult-only audience.
Not to mention that in the early 90s, America was under an extremely prudish rhetoric. So Madonna’s nudity, her point of you on gay sex, safe sex, and Aids meant something. On the other hand, when Janet Jackson showed her nipple at the Super Bowl, the ”slutty way of life” was the norm in the media: Britney, Christina, they were all singing about sex to their teenage fans or performing in skin-color “see-through” outfits at the VMAs. Janet’s nipple had no purpose in 2004. Did it stand for freedom of speech or female empowerment in 2004? No. Madonna did it for her in the 80s and 90s.
So, yeah, that is the subtle difference between Madonna showing her nipples (and a lot more) in the early 90s, and Janet showing hers at the Super Bowl. Intentionality and appropriacy - have you guys ever heard of these?
Madonna’s risqué moments had a purpose and they happened at an appropriate time, and don’t forget: they were all age appropriate too. Can’t say the same about slutty desperate Janet Jackson and her ugly nipple at the family-oriented Super Bowl.
madonna played with the subject of sex outside of and prior to the 'sex' book and the album 'erotica' - namely the justify my love video, the blonde ambition tour and accompanying doco. i saw all of these when i was a minor and they were all easily accessible to me... furtheremore i saw a lot of it on family networks such as mtv! so i can't appreciate your argument there im sorry.
this janet bashing reminds me of kurt loders lame attempt at bitching during the ray of light mtv special. he tried to get a rise out of m by knocking janet's exploration of bondage/sex on her acclaimed 'velvet rope' album (which was out at the time), saying it was 'so 5 years ago' to explore these themes in pop music (referring to how m explored it during her erotica phase as many years earlier).
i thought this was an incredibly stupid quip as bondage and certainly sex are as old as time itseld and who is kurt to say that it is not possible for janet to have these experiences on a very personal level, completely independant to any pop culture zeitgeist? she is a woman and human being first, and a musical artist second. i thought, what a sheltered little mtv world you live in kurt. thankfully m didn't rise to the bait and ignored the comment. little man.
Ha !!! And this is a woman who made a book called sex where she showed her titties and pussy to the world. Madonna is such a hipocrite but I still love her.
The SEX book was a separate project from her music project. That's very different from baring nipples while performing the Superbowl show that is aired on national TV
You have to be a moron, a complete ignorant brainless motherfucker to ignore the different contexts (medium and time) where both (Madonna and Janet Jackson) have been “naughty:
When Madonna published her SEX book, you had to be an ADULT to buy it. When Madonna released the album “Erotica”, it came with a Parental Advisory sticker. "
When Janet showed her nipple on national TV during the Super Bowl halftime show in 2004, there were children watching it. It was not an X rated event, nor was it directed to an adult-only audience.
Not to mention that in the early 90s, America was under an extremely prudish rhetoric. So Madonna’s nudity, her point of you on gay sex, safe sex, and Aids meant something. On the other hand, when Janet Jackson showed her nipple at the Super Bowl, the ”slutty way of life” was the norm in the media: Britney, Christina, they were all singing about sex to their teenage fans or performing in skin-color “see-through” outfits at the VMAs. Janet’s nipple had no purpose in 2004. Did it stand for freedom of speech or female empowerment in 2004? No. Madonna did it for her in the 80s and 90s.
So, yeah, that is the subtle difference between Madonna showing her nipples (and a lot more) in the early 90s, and Janet showing hers at the Super Bowl. Intentionality and appropriacy - have you guys ever heard of these?
Madonna’s risqué moments had a purpose and they happened at an appropriate time, and don’t forget: they were all age appropriate too. Can’t say the same about slutty desperate Janet Jackson and her ugly nipple at the family-oriented Super Bowl.
Not understanding the above statement coming from Madonna means not understanding her career or persona at all.
Anyone who has spent two seconds living through her transformation in the 90s understands, as said by herself at least 300 times since then, that she no longer relates or even completely understands the woman that posed naked for the SEX book. There are a few recent interviews on YouTube where she explains how she views SEX at 53, and how she would (does) explain it to her kids. From this vantage point, she's completely entitled to having the opinion she shares in the present video. As recently as in her interview with Dateline she said she's done things in her career she's not proud of.
But we can take this further. Since her transformation, so to speak, she never went back to that kind of exposure---with one exception: the kiss with Britney. Of course, you can't even compare showing a nipple with sharing a kiss (mind you, personally I think both are fine, but I'm playing the devil's advocate, which in this case is wildly conservative and immature). And even if those two events were comparable, one was done with unabashed confidence (Madonna/Britney) and the other one was portrayed as a wardrobe malfunction... One artist never apologized for it, the other one couldn't pay enough magazines to do so. One artist's management took the heat and ran with it, the other one bent over backwards to satisfy lunatics who think showing a nipple on TV is wrong or inappropriate...
Love Janet, but I'm trying to set the two kids who posted above straight. Thanks.
I love janet too! Hope she has a BIG comeback soon. I think the public/critics lost interest in her b/c she does not have a strong singing voice ala Beyonce, Bey totally took over J's territory when she went solo. Then...the Super Bowl backlash and well eveything was down hill form there. Miss the ole Janet days...
Go fuck yourself and troll on a Janet "Oopsie nipple" Jackson page.
Let me repeat this again:
You have to be a moron, a complete ignorant brainless motherfucker to ignore the different contexts (medium and time) where both (Madonna and Janet Jackson) have been “naughty:
When Madonna published her SEX book, you had to be an ADULT to buy it. When Madonna released the album “Erotica”, it came with a Parental Advisory sticker. "
When Janet showed her nipple on national TV during the Super Bowl halftime show in 2004, there were children watching it. It was not an X rated event, nor was it directed to an adult-only audience.
Not to mention that in the early 90s, America was under an extremely prudish rhetoric. So Madonna’s nudity, her point of you on gay sex, safe sex, and Aids meant something. On the other hand, when Janet Jackson showed her nipple at the Super Bowl, the ”slutty way of life” was the norm in the media: Britney, Christina, they were all singing about sex to their teenage fans or performing in skin-color “see-through” outfits at the VMAs. Janet’s nipple had no purpose in 2004. Did it stand for freedom of speech or female empowerment in 2004? No. Madonna did it for her in the 80s and 90s.
So, yeah, that is the subtle difference between Madonna showing her nipples (and a lot more) in the early 90s, and Janet showing hers at the Super Bowl. Intentionality and appropriacy - have you guys ever heard of these?
Madonna’s risqué moments had a purpose and they happened at an appropriate time, and don’t forget: they were all age appropriate too. Can’t say the same about slutty desperate Janet Jackson and her ugly nipple at the family-oriented Super Bowl.
I'm still puzzled how that Super Bowl publicity stunt could have ever been seriously considered a "wardrobe malfunction" since she had snap-off breast cups and a pierced nipple ornament underneath. It was obviously styled to rip off! It would have been a stronger career move to stand behind the decision to play Hello Titty and roll with the punches. That's where Madonna and Janet differ... Madonna would never buckle under pressure and call it a malfunction! You don't hear M running around saying the Sex book was a mistake... she still owns up to it as creative expression. Janet talked so much shit over the years about M having no classs... then she sold herself out during that Super Bowl fiasco and blamed it on her costume. LAME!!
Tony I think it was real. Madonna did the Kiss at the MTV awards and Im sure Janet wanted to top that after seeing how much attention it got in the media. Unfortunately if failed for her.
I heard, or I saw JT mention in an interview that the nipple piece or what have you, was suppose to cover the entire nipple but a lot of it got ripped off when he took it off of Janet's breast, thus exposing a lot more than they originally intended.
WTF IS WRONG WITH ALL OF YOU! Madonna did not dis JANET! she answering the question of baring breast/nipple. LIGHTEN FUCKING UP!. And TMB really? Janet comeback? No offense to Janet but she had her time long ago and she always followed the Madonna recipe. I don't foresee Janet comeback at all.
Totally agree, there's no Dis there, he asked a question and she answered it basically saying to him, mainstream and cutting edge have nothing to do with being naughty or showing your nipples. i.e. being naughty doesn't necessarily make you cutting edge - and not being naughty doesn't necessarily make you mainstream either.
Being cutting edge or mainstream(Safe) is determined by many factors, it's really based on the whole experience rather than one aspect of a performance. The problem is the way he asked the question is too one dimensional for anyone to give a very specific answer, so it becomes rather vague and generalized.
Madonna and Janet were totally opposite. Madonna was pure pop, while Janet was more R&B/Pop and that whole cheerleader dancing style was all Janet. Madonna rarely danced like that, though I love when she did (American Life video).
Madonna never says or does anything hypocritical or tasteless. When will everyone realize that this women is perfect and is the closest thing to God any one of us will ever encounter on planet earth or in this or any Universe!!!
LOL !!! This made my day, even tho its way too late here in France. Hahaha !!! Madonna never does anything tasteless ??? And what would you call her last tour ? That was very tasteless.
I love Janet, well, older Janet and I think I might be one of the only ones who believe that Superbowl thing really was an accident. It didn't end her career, the shitty music she released after that incident ended her career.
Very true Tony. I think she choose the wrong producers the last 3 albums. Though each of those albums had some good singles potential, her record company kept screwing her over by not letting her choose the single to released. Anyways, janet was amazing back in the day. She was on par with madonna back then. I miss the back in the day Paula Abdul too. This just shows that Madonna is a living legend compared to the rest.
Not really. Her problem was the music. The album she released right after the SB was bad. That first single? Just a little while? They didn't even release the official video to her DVD collection it was that bad LOL.
Now Rock With U should have been big. That was an excellent track.
Ok, well the topic has turned to a Janet vs Madonna which is so 1993! geez. Janet had some good tracks and did her thing BUT honesty it was based on the Madonna recipe. Madonna laid it out for her. Janet isn't a very strong spirit in my opinion. Madonna is a very strong woman. Thats why janet wasn't able to keep the fan base or keep relevant. I wished more of Madonnas vintage contemporaries would surface but they all got lazy or fucked up. I wish i saw Whitney, Janet and Mariah and even Gwen coming out press worthy material. Now its seems Madonna has to be pitted against 25 and under no substance pop acts. YAWN...zzzzzzzzzzz
i don't care what anyone says or where she is in her career now - janet is wonderful. she made some incredible pop music and changed the scene for a while there. and the velvet rope album is a masterpiece and an album i often go back to.
I do not in any way think this was a swipe at Janet Jackson. In the way she responds, she's clearly including herself in the "you don't have to show a nipple to be cutting-edge," etc. Just more drama that's not needed. I'm sure Janet and her fans will take it that way, though, and this will almost certainly be brought up at the press conference as a slam.
I honestly don't know what is worse and uglier: Janet's nipple or Janet's face?
ReplyDeletethe way you talk.
Deleteha! i love linda. thanks for the 411. xo
ReplyDeleteMEOW! After all the shit Janet Jackson has said about Madonna over the years (out of sheer jealousy), Madonna responds in a witty and subtle way that Janet isn't capable of understanding.
ReplyDeletePoor Janet is now relegated to doing Nutri-System commercials!
Awww don't hate on Janet. I feel bad her career went down the toilet after that. She was a great role model for young black women during her rhythm nation era. Just her fans piss me off, by calling her the queen of pop. But I do believe if her brother wasn't Micheal, she would have never had a career.
ReplyDeleteSeriously Madonna? A woman who felates water bottles? What about the sex book? and all the nude shots? simulated masturbation onstage? She’s 53, and STILL trying to sell sex. At least Janet learnt long ago the sex kitten act wasn’t working any longer.
ReplyDeleteAnyways...I don’t see the point in getting upset – they’ve been taking shots at each other since the mid-90s starting when Janet claimed she would not sing so obscenely about sex at Madonna’s age (Madonna at this time being in her mid-30s). Then all of Janets albums since then were all about sex...hummm.
Most pop stars ARE hypocrites...and life still goes on.
xoxo
Oh yeah even at 53 M still has amazing tits campared to Janets. AND she never showed her nude body for interest, but for the sake of art at that time. Her SEX book was an erotic fictional novel. Her fashion cat-walk was a harness designed specially for her, and so on. She's never gotten naked on stage for the sake of just getting naked. She's not Courtney Love
DeleteJust like I said on my tumblr:
DeleteYou have to be a moron, a complete ignorant brainless motherfucker to ignore the different contexts (medium and time) where both (Madonna and Janet Jackson) have been “naughty:
When Madonna published her SEX book, you had to be an ADULT to buy it. When Madonna released the album “Erotica”, it came with a Parental Advisory sticker. "
When Janet showed her nipple on national TV during the Super Bowl halftime show in 2004, there were children watching it. It was not an X rated event, nor was it directed to an adult-only audience.
Not to mention that in the early 90s, America was under an extremely prudish rhetoric. So Madonna’s nudity, her point of you on gay sex, safe sex, and Aids meant something. On the other hand, when Janet Jackson showed her nipple at the Super Bowl, the ”slutty way of life” was the norm in the media: Britney, Christina, they were all singing about sex to their teenage fans or performing in skin-color “see-through” outfits at the VMAs. Janet’s nipple had no purpose in 2004. Did it stand for freedom of speech or female empowerment in 2004? No. Madonna did it for her in the 80s and 90s.
So, yeah, that is the subtle difference between Madonna showing her nipples (and a lot more) in the early 90s, and Janet showing hers at the Super Bowl. Intentionality and appropriacy - have you guys ever heard of these?
Madonna’s risqué moments had a purpose and they happened at an appropriate time, and don’t forget: they were all age appropriate too. Can’t say the same about slutty desperate Janet Jackson and her ugly nipple at the family-oriented Super Bowl.
madonna played with the subject of sex outside of and prior to the 'sex' book and the album 'erotica' - namely the justify my love video, the blonde ambition tour and accompanying doco. i saw all of these when i was a minor and they were all easily accessible to me... furtheremore i saw a lot of it on family networks such as mtv! so i can't appreciate your argument there im sorry.
Deletethis janet bashing reminds me of kurt loders lame attempt at bitching during the ray of light mtv special. he tried to get a rise out of m by knocking janet's exploration of bondage/sex on her acclaimed 'velvet rope' album (which was out at the time), saying it was 'so 5 years ago' to explore these themes in pop music (referring to how m explored it during her erotica phase as many years earlier).
i thought this was an incredibly stupid quip as bondage and certainly sex are as old as time itseld and who is kurt to say that it is not possible for janet to have these experiences on a very personal level, completely independant to any pop culture zeitgeist? she is a woman and human being first, and a musical artist second. i thought, what a sheltered little mtv world you live in kurt. thankfully m didn't rise to the bait and ignored the comment. little man.
Ha !!! And this is a woman who made a book called sex where she showed her titties and pussy to the world. Madonna is such a hipocrite but I still love her.
ReplyDeleteThe SEX book was a separate project from her music project. That's very different from baring nipples while performing the Superbowl show that is aired on national TV
DeleteYou have to be a moron, a complete ignorant brainless motherfucker to ignore the different contexts (medium and time) where both (Madonna and Janet Jackson) have been “naughty:
DeleteWhen Madonna published her SEX book, you had to be an ADULT to buy it. When Madonna released the album “Erotica”, it came with a Parental Advisory sticker. "
When Janet showed her nipple on national TV during the Super Bowl halftime show in 2004, there were children watching it. It was not an X rated event, nor was it directed to an adult-only audience.
Not to mention that in the early 90s, America was under an extremely prudish rhetoric. So Madonna’s nudity, her point of you on gay sex, safe sex, and Aids meant something. On the other hand, when Janet Jackson showed her nipple at the Super Bowl, the ”slutty way of life” was the norm in the media: Britney, Christina, they were all singing about sex to their teenage fans or performing in skin-color “see-through” outfits at the VMAs. Janet’s nipple had no purpose in 2004. Did it stand for freedom of speech or female empowerment in 2004? No. Madonna did it for her in the 80s and 90s.
So, yeah, that is the subtle difference between Madonna showing her nipples (and a lot more) in the early 90s, and Janet showing hers at the Super Bowl. Intentionality and appropriacy - have you guys ever heard of these?
Madonna’s risqué moments had a purpose and they happened at an appropriate time, and don’t forget: they were all age appropriate too. Can’t say the same about slutty desperate Janet Jackson and her ugly nipple at the family-oriented Super Bowl.
i love when supposed Madonna fans stand up for nothings. they are the hypocrites.
ReplyDeleteAmen to that!
DeleteAnd i love how you cant take a different opinion when it comes to Madonna.
Delete"Supposed Madonna fans". Dear Pud, being a fan doesnt mean you have to like everything she does. You are a blind sheep. I feel sorry for you.
Deletemaar - save your pity for yourself. youll need it.
DeleteLOL. But Pud Marr is totally right. :P
Deletethere is only one person whos right here. ME.
DeleteEAT IT!!!
A fan doesn't have to like everything she does but a real fan wouldn't call her names and bash her just to make someone else look better!
DeleteNot understanding the above statement coming from Madonna means not understanding her career or persona at all.
ReplyDeleteAnyone who has spent two seconds living through her transformation in the 90s understands, as said by herself at least 300 times since then, that she no longer relates or even completely understands the woman that posed naked for the SEX book. There are a few recent interviews on YouTube where she explains how she views SEX at 53, and how she would (does) explain it to her kids. From this vantage point, she's completely entitled to having the opinion she shares in the present video. As recently as in her interview with Dateline she said she's done things in her career she's not proud of.
But we can take this further. Since her transformation, so to speak, she never went back to that kind of exposure---with one exception: the kiss with Britney. Of course, you can't even compare showing a nipple with sharing a kiss (mind you, personally I think both are fine, but I'm playing the devil's advocate, which in this case is wildly conservative and immature). And even if those two events were comparable, one was done with unabashed confidence (Madonna/Britney) and the other one was portrayed as a wardrobe malfunction... One artist never apologized for it, the other one couldn't pay enough magazines to do so. One artist's management took the heat and ran with it, the other one bent over backwards to satisfy lunatics who think showing a nipple on TV is wrong or inappropriate...
Love Janet, but I'm trying to set the two kids who posted above straight. Thanks.
I love janet too! Hope she has a BIG comeback soon. I think the public/critics lost interest in her b/c she does not have a strong singing voice ala Beyonce, Bey totally took over J's territory when she went solo. Then...the Super Bowl backlash and well eveything was down hill form there. Miss the ole Janet days...
ReplyDeleteJust saying. :)
Go fuck yourself and troll on a Janet "Oopsie nipple" Jackson page.
DeleteLet me repeat this again:
You have to be a moron, a complete ignorant brainless motherfucker to ignore the different contexts (medium and time) where both (Madonna and Janet Jackson) have been “naughty:
When Madonna published her SEX book, you had to be an ADULT to buy it. When Madonna released the album “Erotica”, it came with a Parental Advisory sticker. "
When Janet showed her nipple on national TV during the Super Bowl halftime show in 2004, there were children watching it. It was not an X rated event, nor was it directed to an adult-only audience.
Not to mention that in the early 90s, America was under an extremely prudish rhetoric. So Madonna’s nudity, her point of you on gay sex, safe sex, and Aids meant something. On the other hand, when Janet Jackson showed her nipple at the Super Bowl, the ”slutty way of life” was the norm in the media: Britney, Christina, they were all singing about sex to their teenage fans or performing in skin-color “see-through” outfits at the VMAs. Janet’s nipple had no purpose in 2004. Did it stand for freedom of speech or female empowerment in 2004? No. Madonna did it for her in the 80s and 90s.
So, yeah, that is the subtle difference between Madonna showing her nipples (and a lot more) in the early 90s, and Janet showing hers at the Super Bowl. Intentionality and appropriacy - have you guys ever heard of these?
Madonna’s risqué moments had a purpose and they happened at an appropriate time, and don’t forget: they were all age appropriate too. Can’t say the same about slutty desperate Janet Jackson and her ugly nipple at the family-oriented Super Bowl.
I hear crickets...
DeleteI'm still puzzled how that Super Bowl publicity stunt could have ever been seriously considered a "wardrobe malfunction" since she had snap-off breast cups and a pierced nipple ornament underneath. It was obviously styled to rip off! It would have been a stronger career move to stand behind the decision to play Hello Titty and roll with the punches. That's where Madonna and Janet differ... Madonna would never buckle under pressure and call it a malfunction! You don't hear M running around saying the Sex book was a mistake... she still owns up to it as creative expression. Janet talked so much shit over the years about M having no classs... then she sold herself out during that Super Bowl fiasco and blamed it on her costume. LAME!!
ReplyDeleteAgree. She should have just owned up to it. It was so obviously staged. JT pussied out and left to hang in the media. Poor janet.
Deletexoxo
Justin ripping off the part around her breast was OBVIOUSLY done on purpose. Not the part AND her bra. lol.
Deletesome people. I mean, really?
Tony I think it was real. Madonna did the Kiss at the MTV awards and Im sure Janet wanted to top that after seeing how much attention it got in the media. Unfortunately if failed for her.
DeleteMost definitely done on purpose! How can people be so clueless (rolling eyes)
DeleteYou dumb fuck (slide). I SAID it was on purpose. Obviously Justin was supposed to expose her bra under her shirt, not her fucking TIT. o_O
DeleteLord. The simplicity in some people really sometimes astonishes me.
I heard, or I saw JT mention in an interview that the nipple piece or what have you, was suppose to cover the entire nipple but a lot of it got ripped off when he took it off of Janet's breast, thus exposing a lot more than they originally intended.
ReplyDeleteWTF IS WRONG WITH ALL OF YOU! Madonna did not dis JANET! she answering the question of baring breast/nipple. LIGHTEN FUCKING UP!.
ReplyDeleteAnd TMB really? Janet comeback? No offense to Janet but she had her time long ago and she always followed the Madonna recipe. I don't foresee Janet comeback at all.
Totally agree, there's no Dis there, he asked a question and she answered it basically saying to him, mainstream and cutting edge have nothing to do with being naughty or showing your nipples. i.e. being naughty doesn't necessarily make you cutting edge - and not being naughty doesn't necessarily make you mainstream either.
DeleteBeing cutting edge or mainstream(Safe) is determined by many factors, it's really based on the whole experience rather than one aspect of a performance. The problem is the way he asked the question is too one dimensional for anyone to give a very specific answer, so it becomes rather vague and generalized.
Madonna and Janet were totally opposite. Madonna was pure pop, while Janet was more R&B/Pop and that whole cheerleader dancing style was all Janet. Madonna rarely danced like that, though I love when she did (American Life video).
DeleteMadonna never says or does anything hypocritical or tasteless. When will everyone realize that this women is perfect and is the closest thing to God any one of us will ever encounter on planet earth or in this or any Universe!!!
ReplyDeleteLOL !!! This made my day, even tho its way too late here in France. Hahaha !!! Madonna never does anything tasteless ??? And what would you call her last tour ? That was very tasteless.
DeleteYou mean The Drowned World Tour? I agree, awful :(
DeleteMe too..I agree.
DeleteTaste is on the tongue of the beholder or b-holer!!!
ReplyDeleteTrue. Lick my hole.
DeleteI love Janet, well, older Janet and I think I might be one of the only ones who believe that Superbowl thing really was an accident. It didn't end her career, the shitty music she released after that incident ended her career.
ReplyDeleteVery true Tony. I think she choose the wrong producers the last 3 albums. Though each of those albums had some good singles potential, her record company kept screwing her over by not letting her choose the single to released. Anyways, janet was amazing back in the day. She was on par with madonna back then. I miss the back in the day Paula Abdul too. This just shows that Madonna is a living legend compared to the rest.
Deleteshe OBVIOUSLY made shitty music post Super Bowl.. but Nipplegate was the nail in her coffin! It was an UDDER disaster!!! lol (nice one, Pud)
DeleteNot really. Her problem was the music. The album she released right after the SB was bad. That first single? Just a little while? They didn't even release the official video to her DVD collection it was that bad LOL.
DeleteNow Rock With U should have been big. That was an excellent track.
And BTW, Madonna said doesn't mean cutting edge if you do show breasts, obviously referring to herself as well.
ReplyDeleteI certainly don't think this was a dig at Janet.
Ok, well the topic has turned to a Janet vs Madonna which is so 1993! geez. Janet had some good tracks and did her thing BUT honesty it was based on the Madonna recipe. Madonna laid it out for her. Janet isn't a very strong spirit in my opinion. Madonna is a very strong woman. Thats why janet wasn't able to keep the fan base or keep relevant. I wished more of Madonnas vintage contemporaries would surface but they all got lazy or fucked up.
ReplyDeleteI wish i saw Whitney, Janet and Mariah and even Gwen coming out press worthy material. Now its seems Madonna has to be pitted against 25 and under no substance pop acts. YAWN...zzzzzzzzzzz
Totally agree with the Whitney, Janet and Mariah and even Gwen comment.
DeleteJanet was always FAR more interesting to watch then any of those people. All combined, actually.
ReplyDeletei don't care what anyone says or where she is in her career now - janet is wonderful. she made some incredible pop music and changed the scene for a while there. and the velvet rope album is a masterpiece and an album i often go back to.
ReplyDeleteI do not in any way think this was a swipe at Janet Jackson. In the way she responds, she's clearly including herself in the "you don't have to show a nipple to be cutting-edge," etc. Just more drama that's not needed. I'm sure Janet and her fans will take it that way, though, and this will almost certainly be brought up at the press conference as a slam.
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